Money is Not Needed with Energy Abundance

In order to understand the very basis of money, it is best to contemplate how it developed in the first place.

Once society developed past the clan stage, when barter, trade and so forth arose, it became the practice to place value on the products of human energy expended. If one used one’s energy to build a bow, go out hunting, kill an animal, process the carcass, and transport the meat back to be traded or bartered for, this gave that meat value. The bow components were free, as was the animal. The same was true for the farmer, who expended meaningful energy in tilling, sowing, tending, harvesting, and, if need be, transporting what that farmer produced. The produce had value. Even the gatherer expended meaningful energy in seeking things to gather, then transporting the find back to be used as “money” for other things. The miner expended the meaningful energy to find the (free) ore, hew it out of the earth, and transport it.

From these beginnings, the practice of using coin and other objects arose to represent this meaningful energy expended when transporting large amounts of goods, as well using to acquire something another had but not having the specific thing the other wanted. And from this, humans went on to bills when coins and jewels and other objects became too cumbersome. And, lately, we have added electronic funds, as even bills are cumbersome in million unit, billion unit and trillion unit transactions. But the foundation of all these monetary units is the meaningful energy expended, whether human or resource-based (oil, coal, nuclear, etc.) energy.

Given this, it becomes clear that an addition of abundant energy — in the form of overunity (“free energy”) and robotics (to replace human energy in necessary work nobody wants to do), the need for money in any form — barter, trade, work exchange, coin, bills, electronic funds — becomes unnecessary.

If one removes the cost of the energy — human and external — all down the line, what is left is freely given by this planet we inhabit.

Now, of course, many would say, “But there is no ‘overunity’ to be had!” And in that, they would be incorrect. There have been many solutions to energy production and distribution which have been avidly suppressed and hidden by the power elite. They are fully aware that by adding energy which is free, their power over others, in the form of money, will dissipate, leaving each to control oneself but no others.

Though there are examples of things such as cars that run on water, extracting energy from the planet’s magnetic field, and so on that have had patents bought and buried, or threats to lives (of the inventors themselves as well as their families), to actual murders, I know of one such technology that not only offers overunity, but also gravity control. And, unlike most of these other examples, is negentropic (negative entropy) in its function. Cooling is seen in this technology, as opposed to heating.

That science/technology is electrogravitics.

Back in the 1950s, electrogravitics, with the Biefeld-Brown Effect as its foundation, was being pursued at all the major aerospace companies: Lockheed, Boeing, Convair, Lear and many others were excitedly exploring what electrogravitics had to offer. Sometime, around 1959 or early 1960, this work became highly classified and, though ostensibly for its “weaponization” concerns, the true reason it became highly classified was because of its overunity capabilities. The power elite grasped that that was the biggest threat to their continued control.

As a source of energy, electrogravitics is ideal. From it, We can have energy that is free of pollution, is easily constructed, and does not contribute to the entropy of the universe. Because it is so ideal, and because the power elite seem bent on Naziesque control of the planet — with “Patriot” Acts, NDAA’s, TSA’s, and other fascist enactments — it is vital that the awareness of such technology spread to the tipping point.

If we can achieve that, Humanity will demand this tech and free itself from:

  • Poverty
  • Hunger
  • Slavery (outright or wage slavery)
  • War (most wars are incited to ensure profit for the war suppliers and “infrastructure rebuilders”)
  • The control of the many by the few
  • The love of money (the root of all evil)
  • The need to pay for education (going deeply into debt or forgoing education)
  • Products made to fail so as to ensure future sales
  • Hidden cures (cures are not a money-maker in the long run; sick People keep paying)
  • Spam
  • Aggressive advertising
  •  Focus on the material
  • Politics for Self- or special-interest
  • GMO for control of food
  • Water control
  • Hydrofracking, rain forest clearing, oil drilling, coal mining
  • Corporations
  • Corporate “farmers” paid to NOT produce food (so as to keep the prices inflated through supply and demand)
  • Doctors who are more interested in money than patients
  • Bankers
  • Insurance
  • Internet takeover
  • “Voting” machines with proprietary software (why would a simple vote-counting program need to be proprietary? Why do we accept such things?)
  • Waste (presently supermarkets alone throw out hundreds of thousands of tons of food a month, distributing by profit and not need; other waste such as packaging can virtually be eliminated, products will not be made to break so as to ensure future sales)

There’s more, but as one can see, just this list is an elimination of most of the problems we presently are beset with.

To the end of achieving the tipping point of awareness, I am offering a petition to the US Military (which presently controls the science of electrogravitics) to release this information. I offer it here in the hopes that you sign — and not only that, spread the awareness of what I have presented and of the petition itself.  More info on how I know about electrogravitics and its capabilities is at the petition site:

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22 Responses to "Money is Not Needed with Energy Abundance"

  1. Herben Soldier  April 13, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    RBE NOW!!!!!

    • lauren trathen  June 22, 2012 at 11:35 am


  2. steve hess  April 13, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    This and many other wonderful ideas need to be explored. We have all been slaves to money and the production machine for way too long!

  3. Roan Carratu  April 30, 2012 at 10:48 am

    I don’t think it was exactly like this, I think money was an invention by a Leonardo Da Vinci type genus which allowed more control over the grain taken by warlords so the warlord could more easily field their military and initially supply them with requirements. Before that time, the military took their food from the slaves/peasants in their march path and left them starving, which made the result of more new slaves, the original form of money, often a loss rather than a gain in slaves. With the warlord’s mark and fundamental primitive accounting, the grain taken by the military could be replaced from the warlord’s grain storage and any slaves brought back were profit and not so much replacements.

    But the warlord’s mark proved to be a much more useful tool for motivating the slaves, which is why it is a ubiquitous tool of slavery now, although it is now called ‘employment’ and is not as tight and controlling as old whip and chain slavery.

  4. Jamison  May 23, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    “We can have energy that is free of pollution, is easily constructed, and does not contribute to the entropy of the universe.” I don’t think you have a full grasp of entropy. Entropy is simply a concept that is used in combination with enthalpy to determine the spontaneity of a reaction. More or less entropy in the universe is not better or worst for the world, it’s merely a thermodynamic concept that is used for calculations.

  5. Andy  June 21, 2012 at 12:23 am

    I agree with Jamison, there is no such a thing called “free energy”, civilization as we now it now is suported by cheap energy but the global overall extraction peak of oil was in 2006, bad news. Oil and natural gas are the primary energy on which everything rests. The concept of RBE is a good idea but you need to be more realistic ¿Do you knwo about economy of the common good from Christian Felber? Is less utopian ;)

    • Jim  December 16, 2012 at 9:00 am

      “free” as in the sense we don’t have to pay for it or have any cost, meaning if it had no cost to produce or cultivate anyone could virtually harvest it providing free energy for all, in short… energy, fuel your car, free energy, fuel your house, free energy… world.

  6. Tracy  July 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Horrible logic here. The hunter hunting the meat did not create the value of the meat. HUNGER created the value of the meat!

    Farmers and hunters are not going to give you your food even if there is free energy.

    This is the dumbest thing I have read since the Human Self Extinction Movement!

    • Martin  July 17, 2012 at 8:00 pm

      Hunger created the demand. However value is not only determined by demand. It’s also determined by supply (scarcity of resources + labor).

  7. Tracy  July 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    yes supply has an effect upon value.

  8. SeriousLeftie  July 23, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    electrogravatics was the Cold Fusion of the first half of the 20th century. Despite almost 50 years of fairly widespread experimentation, no one could show any support at all for the theory. That is, electrogravatics does not exist as a functioning scientific theory, let alone in some practical machine capable of producing power.

    Money also will never go away, until we hit a post-scarcity culture. Even with very cheap power (let’s be frank, fusion and similar power sources, even the mythical EG, isn’t free – low cost, yet, not free), there’s still lots of other stuff that we need which is bound to the laws of supply and demand, and scarcity.

    I’d much rather see us speculate on how super-cheap electricity could be a game-changer for humanity, than daydream on some never-to-happen money-free society.

  9. Tracy  July 23, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    Well said.

  10. Aric D  August 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Can anyone tell me why the sun or wind or water are not considered FREE energy? Because they most certainly are! The problem is that we don’t want to reconstruct our lives as needed to revolve around them like we should. There are plenty of what we would call “primative” cultures left in the far corners of the earth that still know this and live accordingly. They have NO need for money or technology and have been living this way in peace and harmony for generations! The answer IS NOT and will NEVER BE more and better technology! That is how we got to where we are ladies and gentleman! The answer is and always has been going back to where our problems started, our own GREED and unthankfulness. When we choose to leave the comfort and completeness of our SUPPLIER of all needs, both material and spiritual (mother earth), for “greener pastures created by our own hands,” we LEFT OUR ROOTS. We forgot where we came from and consequently forgot our creator and supplier of all GOOD things! If it is answers to the problems of this world such as “energy shortages” u are looking for, look no further than WHERE U CAME FROM. :-)

    • lemonlnw  December 16, 2012 at 11:19 am

      You are right! Those people who said that technology is a must is because they get addicted to the technology. NOT because they need it. Just like some people get addicted to watching tv, surfing Facebook. It is NOT a need to do so you see. You won’t “die” if you don’t watch tv for a month right? Lets be honest, it is just simply an addiction. Like people get addicted to drugs. It is not much different at all actually.

    • David  February 21, 2013 at 11:26 pm

      But those other cultures do rely on technology. Technology to them is creating tools and weapons for hunting or farming, cooking, sewing etc. “We” just have far more advanced forms of technology and sadly most have taken advantage of the good that can come from some of the very creative and useful ideas people can have these days.

  11. alvin  December 16, 2012 at 11:43 am

    so what do bankers do? just a bunch of fat cats.

  12. André  February 2, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    Where can I find this patent?

  13. PCMcGee  February 3, 2013 at 8:25 am

    (Time-binding+Korzybski+Google+you) = (>/=x)

  14. David  February 21, 2013 at 11:20 pm

    What some people should try and understand is, our society over the past 50 years has done a ridiculous amount of environmental damage to the earth that we may never have the opportunity to reverse some of it in our lifetime. Hence the extreme weather that has been occurring at a higher level than ever before. But in order to accomplish some of the major tasks our current situation demands without being wasteful of resources is providing better technology (and in my opinion no monetary system would also be ideal). Better technology DOESN’T mean more laptops, smartphones or useless entertainment gadgets. It means utilizing more efficient materials that harness energy in many different ways for far cheaper than we ever thought possible so that someday everything we use as tools to survive will be next to free if not completely free. The industrial revolution is what screwed up the environment and the baking system is what screwed up society. Once you do the research on the psychology of money, the historical research on the bankers, oil tycoons, and scientists from various fields that engineered the way our current society runs, if one is not an idiot, it is obvious that the monetary system has thwarted some of the most genius accomplishments in human history and manufactured a society that literally is a pyramid scheme. But people need to be educated on these matters as I have. They need to see the proof for themselves. So if you really want people to listen I suggest going about it in another way. TED is the way to go.

  15. David  February 23, 2013 at 8:28 pm

  16. Ericjt  May 27, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Money will not go away because of limitless “free” energy. As long as ownership of material resources exists, as long as some people have skills, machines, tools others don’t have, as long as it takes time and effort to do anything, some people will have to pay for what others produce. Abundant energy also doesn’t mean those who produce it will not charge for it, or for the devices that produce it. And due to the mentality of most humans, without money to meter out their effort and motivate them, a moneyless society will not function. In one Star Trek episode or movie it was explained that they didn’t use money because people had the mentality to work for enjoyment and to better themselves and their world and didn’t need material rewards or to accumulate wealth. Money will end with a virtuous, utopian mentality. We are a little ways off from that.


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